#JESUS WEPT QUOTE MOVIE#

To the same place, the same face, the same brute Here are a few cheery verses from 'Lady Lazarus' written by that expert on suicide (she tried several times before her last virtuoso performance) - Sylvia Plath: I remember posting ages ago that I thought Thomas More's death (he was already a very sick and depressed man at the time of his arrest) was assisted suicide - a way out for a man for whom actual suicide would have been a sin.Īnd the going knowingly 'up to Jerusalem' - was that a kind of suicide too? Few would choose crucifixion though - a clean blow from an axe or a goblet of hemlock a much kinder option. So was Socrates the first philosopher-martyr? This is an interesting article from the New York Times: He committed 'suicide by court', demonstrated his main political principles quite forcibly, and ensured he went out with a philosophical bang rather than a senile whimper a short while later. Stone - like many others - reckoned the real truth behind his obstreperous disregard for the court and his own fate may have been ill health due to old age. Had he been acquitted of both charges by a majority of jurors there is in fact pretty good reason to believe that he would have violently disrespected their judgement and even provoked re-arrest for contempt of court - a crime back in his day too. Brexit to see what he was getting at), so this placed him in a double-bind when it came to his trial. One of Socrates' core principles when it came to authority and governance was that a majority meant nothing if it wasn't backed up by intelligence and knowledge (viz. However, while it’s not unfair to read a lot of that as secondary intent, the real story behind the “Jesus wept,” line in Hellraiser is much more mundane - Andrew Robinson simply didn’t want to swear.I don't think Stone's view is all that radical in this instance - even Socrates' contemporaries such as his student Xenophon acknowledged that once the city decided Socrates should be processed through a democratic court (which had a slightly different meaning then than it might mean now) he was effectively doomed.

#JESUS WEPT QUOTE MOVIE#

Related: Hellraiser: Why Clive Barker's Movie Has Become A Queer Horror Classicįans have considered all sorts of rationales and deeper meanings for the iconic line with its biblical origins in this film that’s so darkly sexual and deviant. It can also be seen as a sort of dark comedic line, as if Frank is essentially saying something like, “oh bother,” just before he’s literally ripped to pieces. In the context of the scene, it’s possible that the phrase is used as a way to mock Kirsty's horror and grief over her father is mocked in the face of Frank's sublime agony. However, the phrase is also used commonly in British and Irish dialects as an expression of exasperation, often used sarcastically or even as an expletive. To be specific, it refers to Jesus’ reaction to Lazarus’ family and their grief at the death of their beloved family member.

“Jesus wept” is perhaps most well-known for being the shortest verse in the King James version of the Christian Bible, appearing in John 11:35. Reports are conflicted over whether Clive Barker loved it immediately, or only came to love it later after initially being frustrated at the change, however, regardless of the immediacy, it’s clear Clive loved the line swap enough to use that take in the final cut of the scene. Instead, the actor decided to use a phrase he had heard often in his childhood in place of swears and ad-libbed the line that would later be used in the final cut.

However, Andrew Robinson ( Star Trek: Deep Space Nine) played the character of Frank during that scene, and he hated swearing so much that he didn’t want to read the line as written. Interestingly, as was discussed in Leviathan: The Story of Hellraiser and Hellbound: Hellraiser II a documentary about the makings of the first two Hellraiser films, the line was originally supposed to be “f**k you” as Frank expresses his anger at Kirsty having led him back into the clutches of the cenobites. Though this line is now considered one of the most memorable and iconic quotes in Hellraiser, it wasn’t originally in the script and was actually ad-libbed by Andrew Robinson.

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